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Post by Whiterook on Jun 24, 2022 20:05:32 GMT -5
Back around 2009, I'd reentered model building after many decades, and model building had advanced dramatically since I was a kid! Most specifically in painting of the models... if I painted any model back in the 1960-70's, it was with Model Master enamels, from those tiny little bottles. When I started modeling again, builders were using acrylics, and most were airbrushing. I was too intimidated to try an airbrush right away, but after hearing my older sister tell me she used ine for makeup, I figured "Heck, if she can use it, I can too!" I'm glad I did jump into the fray, as it really is much easier than one would think. My first was a single action Badger, which I bought at Michael's Craft Store with a 60% off holiday sale coupon. I worked well, but I actually felt the need for the more controlled spray my model building friends touted, so I bought this Iwata Eclipse, which is a double action beauty. The difference between a single and double action airbrush is the paint delivery mechanism. A single-action airbrush delivers paint with only the press of a button. A double-action airbrush only lets air pass through when you press down and pull on on the trigger. This allows you to adjust the size of the paint stream, and the amount of paint passing through your brush as you paint. The ability to do this is the primary advantage of a double-action airbrush over a single-action airbrush. It really is a difference maker, over hand painting, though there are times when the latter is necessary. I've used an airbrush exclusively on models ever since, and the next stage will be on some Vietnam-era 15mm miniatures.
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Post by Geek44 on Jul 5, 2023 23:10:29 GMT -5
Had my Eclipse for over a decade now with no issues. Easy to use and maintain. I also own a Custom Micron B which in ten years I've used exactly three times but it was worth the (almost $600 AUD ten years ago) investment. I'd never bother with anything other than Iwata now.
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Post by Whiterook on Jul 10, 2023 16:03:32 GMT -5
I’ve flirted with looking for an airbrush that can do super fine lines… I know they’re out there, but no idea what. This, mainly for miniatures vehicles camo painting.
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Post by McCoy on Jul 10, 2023 17:21:58 GMT -5
I’ve flirted with looking for an airbrush that can do super fine lines… I know they’re out there, but no idea what. This, mainly for miniatures vehicles camo painting. The truth is that you can do super fine lines with any $100+ airbrush. It's all about time with the airbrush and nothing else. But with that said I've got several super detail airbrushes in my collection and it does help but it's not absolutely necessary in the end.
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Post by Geek44 on Jul 10, 2023 19:59:08 GMT -5
I’ve flirted with looking for an airbrush that can do super fine lines… I know they’re out there, but no idea what. This, mainly for miniatures vehicles camo painting. Iwata Custom Micron B is a beautiful tool. It's double action but has a numbered nut on the end to limit trigger pull-back travel. You can thus mechanically restrict the amount of paint delivered. I personally don't use this feature but I think some would find it useful. They're expensive though.
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Post by Whiterook on Jul 14, 2023 9:31:54 GMT -5
Good points and interesting on the Micon B’s abilities.
I do remember I had one AB singled out for finer work… I’m pretty it was a Paasche, which aren’t too pricy, but I also seem to remember there may be some fragile needle issues.
I’m also wondering about psi for finer lines, I generally run 20 psi for most of my spraying and haven’t noted any issues… but I think would be too strong for fine lines. Also, I would think you’d need to get close to the surface? I really should look up some YouTube vids.
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Post by Whiterook on Jul 14, 2023 9:34:21 GMT -5
I’ve flirted with looking for an airbrush that can do super fine lines… I know they’re out there, but no idea what. This, mainly for miniatures vehicles camo painting. The truth is that you can do super fine lines with any $100+ airbrush. It's all about time with the airbrush and nothing else. But with that said I've got several super detail airbrushes in my collection and it does help but it's not absolutely necessary in the end. I’ve flirted with looking for an airbrush that can do super fine lines… I know they’re out there, but no idea what. This, mainly for miniatures vehicles camo painting. Iwata Custom Micron B is a beautiful tool. It's double action but has a numbered nut on the end to limit trigger pull-back travel. You can thus mechanically restrict the amount of paint delivered. I personally don't use this feature but I think some would find it useful. They're expensive though. I can’t even put into words how happy I am to see you two in one modeling forum area! I’ve missed both of you dearly!
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Post by McCoy on Jul 14, 2023 14:28:53 GMT -5
I would recommend you to avoid Paasche as they've not moved with the time. Even Badger is a better option and you could get at Sotar 20/20 for the detail work. Iwata is better but more expensive and the Sotar is a really good airbrush for it's price.
Psi for the fine work could range a lot depending on paint and airbrush but it's usually between 12 - 20 psi
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Post by McCoy on Jul 14, 2023 14:33:24 GMT -5
I can’t even put into words how happy I am to see you two in one modeling forum area! I’ve missed both of you dearly! We do our best to help others when we're able to do so. But me and Nick knows quite a lot between us regarding modelling.
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Post by McCoy on Jul 14, 2023 15:23:37 GMT -5
I've got way more airbrushes than I need.
Haarder & Stenbeck Infinity CR+ Solo 0.15mm Badger Sotar 20/20 0.21mm Badger Sotar Slim 0.21mm Mr Hobby PS-270 0.2mm Mr Hobby PS-770 0.18mm Iwata Revolution CR 0.5mm Iwata High Performance HP-C plus 0.3mm Iwata Eclipse Takumi 0.35mm Iwata Custom Micron Takumi 0.18mm Iwata Custom Micron CM-C 0.23mm
I've had some airbrushes over the years that I've sold.
Testor Aztek A-470 0.3mm Badger Krome 0.21mm/0.33mm Badger Patriot 105 0.5mm Badger Xtreme Patriot 0.3mm Haarder & Stenbeck Evolution 0.2mm Haarder & Stenbeck Silverline 0.2/0.4mm Haarder & Stenbeck Infinity 0.15mm Mr Hobby PS-268 0.4mm Mr Hobby PS-269 0.3mm
So as you can see I've tested a few over the years.
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Post by Geek44 on Jul 16, 2023 16:14:28 GMT -5
I had an Aztek for a while too. Unusual, worked ok but I wasn't devastated when it packed in and needed replacement.
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Post by McCoy on Jul 16, 2023 17:08:45 GMT -5
I had an Aztek for a while too. Unusual, worked ok but I wasn't devastated when it packed in and needed replacement. I know mate, you sent me some spare parts that you had collecting dust. But the Aztek and I weren't the best of friends and as soon as I got to test a cheap Chinese Iwata clone that worked better for me than the Aztek. Then I put it aside and sold it later on.
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